AFC West Denver Broncos

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.maxim.com/rides/jeep-trailca ... ast-2016-3

Going to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari. These bad boys will be there with thousands of other cool Jeeps.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/joh ... li=BBnb7Kz

This dude is an idiot.

[CSpringsNSD]

Looks like Denver is offering a 4th and standing firm. Maybe if they offer that 4th and Sanchez they will get the deal done. Sounds like something I typed earlier

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ ... 0_20482216

[CSpringsNSD]

http://www.maxim.com/rides/jeep-trailcat-off-road-beast-2016-3

Going to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari. These bad boys will be there with thousands of other cool Jeeps.

Those are pretty sweet.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.maxim.com/rides/jeep-trailcat-off-road-beast-2016-3

Going to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari. These bad boys will be there with thousands of other cool Jeeps.

Those are pretty sweet.

Jay Leno usually has some of his stuff down there plus a million other people. It will be a zoo but my wife wanted to go.

[OnlyInUtah]

Looks like Denver is offering a 4th and standing firm. Maybe if they offer that 4th and Sanchez they will get the deal done. Sounds like something I typed earlier

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ ... 0_20482216

I think they ought to offer them a 5th and Butt Fumble.

[CSpringsNSD]

http://www.maxim.com/rides/jeep-trailcat-off-road-beast-2016-3

Going to Moab for Easter Jeep Safari. These bad boys will be there with thousands of other cool Jeeps.

Those are pretty sweet.

Jay Leno usually has some of his stuff down there plus a million other people. It will be a zoo but my wife wanted to go.

That kind of stuff is fun. Just walk around and look at what people brought. My wife and I did a 5k up in Irvine this weekend and it just so happened that a Dodge car forum had a big get together at the hotel we were staying at. Tons of tricked out Chargers, Challengers and magnums. Pretty fun and completely unexpected.

[CSpringsNSD]

Looks like Denver is offering a 4th and standing firm. Maybe if they offer that 4th and Sanchez they will get the deal done. Sounds like something I typed earlier

http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/ ... 0_20482216

I think they ought to offer them a 5th and Butt Fumble.

I still think it's a 4th and they throw in the butt-fumbler. 49ers are already sticking at a 2nd rounder so Denver won't be able to go any lower on the pick. Nobody is going to give a 2nd rounder for Kap though.

[CSpringsNSD]

Weddle to the Ravens. Gonna be a lot of mad people around these parts. He was a fan favorite and SD screwed him.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/saf ... li=BBnb7Kz

[Hoppy]

Sanchez is saying all the right answers
https://t.co/oLYdmcv7jn

[OnlyInUtah]

http://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/03 ... k-jackson/

I think so.

[CSpringsNSD]

CJ Anderson stays in Denver. 4.5 mil a year for 4 years isn't too bad.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denv ... ack-031516

[IckyIPA]

CJ Anderson stays in Denver. 4.5 mil a year for 4 years isn't too bad.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denv ... ack-031516

I love CJ and am happy he's staying, but 4.5 is a bit much for how we plug and play RBs. Sends a calming message to the locker room too though, and that is worth something...Long Live Elway

[CSpringsNSD]

CJ Anderson stays in Denver. 4.5 mil a year for 4 years isn't too bad.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/denv ... ack-031516

I love CJ and am happy he's staying, but 4.5 is a bit much for how we plug and play RBs. Sends a calming message to the locker room too though, and that is worth something...Long Live Elway

$4.5 is a little high but not a crazy amount. I can live with it. Not like there are a bunch of really good FA RBs on the market. This just seems like a lean year all the way around.

[CSpringsNSD]

Anderson contract is actually front loaded and will cost Denver 6 mil in the first year.

[Hoppy]

Three things with the things that happened today. First I don't like the matching CJ . CJ is a good back but not a great back. second the matching will stop the Broncos from Trying to get Elliott. Will they pass on Henry if he falls to 31? Hard to pay a man 6 million and sit him. Third the good My second Granddaughter was born today and she is healthy God is good

[IckyIPA]

Three things with the things that happened today. First I don't like the matching CJ . CJ is a good back but not a great back. second the matching will stop the Broncos from Trying to get Elliott. Will they pass on Henry if he falls to 31? Hard to pay a man 6 million and sit him. Third the good My second Granddaughter was born today and she is healthy God is good

Congratulations Papa Hop...I'm hoping they still grab Henry, we haven't been a one back team in for a while now. I'm starting to think that they might be lining up to make a move on a QB, especially since the Browns may not be drafting one in the first round. I could seeing us moving down to 9 or 10 to draft Goff if he falls there, kinda like we did to grab Ray. If the Browns don't go QB, there is a chance Paxton Lynch is there at 31 also. BTW, I like how CJ has been ending all his tweets with 32-254-22. It stands for the 32 teams that didn't draft him, 254 players taken in the draft, and the 22 RBs that were drafted. Still motivated by that 4 years later

[kicks]

Congratulations Hop!!!

We overpaid for Anderson. Big time. We can turn any RB into a stud with our system. Stink said it was a bad move as well. He tends to shoot straight with all things Bronco. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have Anderson but we paid too much.

[kicks]

It's been an interesting week for sure.

[Jarhead93]

Three things with the things that happened today. First I don't like the matching CJ . CJ is a good back but not a great back. second the matching will stop the Broncos from Trying to get Elliott. Will they pass on Henry if he falls to 31? Hard to pay a man 6 million and sit him. Third the good My second Granddaughter was born today and she is healthy God is good

** Of all my jobs, being PaPa is my absolute favorite Congratulations May she bring you much

[YiRox]

Big shock here -

I'll be the lone dissenting voice and say the Anderson deal was a good one. The market set his value. The terms for the first two years aren't that great but after the defections and cuts the team has the money to absorb the guaranteed the first two years. If you look at the contracts that Miller and Ivory got both in terms of per year and guaranteed, CJ's a steal. If they had used a 2nd round tender the money would have been less but it's not cast in stone that you get him past one year, and RB contracts will increase with the projected cap increase for '17. So good value and smart use of additional monies and send a message that those that kick and scream will be rewarded.

If we try to move up the board, it's going to cost a great deal. The total points on the old Trade Value Chart are not kind to teams that are successful. They can package all picks this year that can be traded and the total points are only +/- 1150 or around the 15th pick. Trade partners are going to devalue a future pick because of the success the team has shown the past five years and they will suspect the pick will be in the bottom third of the draft. We'll be able to trade comp picks next year. We should get 3,3,5,7 and depending on Mathis' Cardinal contract the 7 could move to a 6 . But award of those picks are 12 months away. That means giving up a player on the roster and I think that management's not looking to do that right now.

The cash committed for the two years after '16 is peanuts. Von will cost around 35 mil this year if they reach a long term deal. After that it will fall to the 16-19 a year range. I think that this is a bridge year both in terms of cash and QB. After that they'll have the picks, the cash, and a bad attitude.

[CSpringsNSD]

I don't think the Anderson contract was all that bad. It's a little pricey, but as you said, the market set the value. Miami front loaded the contract on purpose to discourage the Broncos from matching, but Denver matched anyways. I think he is a good back and more consistent than Hillman. I'm happy he's staying on the team.

[SouthStands]

Ok...I'm going to give the board another shot. I hope the childish back and forth is gone...if it's not, I will be. I know that may not be a huge disappointment, but I wanted to be clear so there would be no misunderstandings.

I agree with Yi on Elway matching the offer for CJ. I feel like nobody seems to get that Elway and Sullivan are masters of what they do. Had Elway offered up a 2nd round tender for Anderson, no team would have matched and Denver would have had CJ on a one year deal. By low balling Anderson (if that's what you want to call it), Elway allowed another team to set the value for CJ's contract. If it had been ridiculous, I don't think Elway would have matched. But it wasn't. Sure, it was front loaded, but who cares? As Yi accurately points out, the contract is peanuts years 2, 3, and 4. Elway knows he's going to restructure (or just release) Clady, so the money is practically a wash anyways. Now you have the RB you like on a very team-friendly contract through 2019. Anyone that isn't seeing that is missing the big picture.

To Osweiler and Sanchez...I'll be brief. No way do you pay a guy with 7 starts $18M/Season. Just no way. Good move by Elway there. Getting Sanchez is a good move too. Easy contract, veteran player with playoff experience. He's not going to put any team on his back and go win you a championship, but he is absolutely a solid system QB, which is what Kubiak needs. Now if Elway ships him to San Francisco with a conditional 4th in 2017 for Kaepernick, so be it. I would rather see Sanchez as the QB this year and have Denver draft Dak Prescott (whom they seem to love) to take over.

To the exodus of the guys leaving Denver for greener pastures...thank you for what you did for the Broncos, but Elway and Sullivan are building a consistent contender and will not jeopardize the future by overspending just to hang onto some good players. This team is built through drafting and developing...I'm good with that.

[CSpringsNSD]

hey South, good to see you. I agree that the CJ contract isn't that bad. It really doesn't affect us much financially as you mentioned and he is someone that is already familiar with the system we have. $18mil a year for Oz was WAY too much, I'm glad that's another team's problem to deal with. The way I see it on Sanchez, the team had to grab a QB and Sanchez was the best option. better to have him instead of nothing. And, as you mentioned, he is a solid system QB. We don't need him to be great, just to reduce mistakes. Elway has proven he knows what he's doing. He does it year after year and we always have a team that can contend. Of all the teams Elway has put together, and I don't think I'm alone on this one, this last year seemed like the longest shot to win it all. But look what happened. Elway has built a contender and wont bend to the whims of players that threaten that.

[Jarhead93]

** To South, Welcome back, I too was growing tired of the childish behavior. IF you disagree with someone say so, you can do it in an intelligent manner, state your opinions, allow for feedback and move on, EVERYONE will be the beneficiary of the comments because they show your intellectual depth and knowledge of our favorite sport and Team. GO BRONCOS! <gets off soapbox> OW! doggone splinters.

[IckyIPA]

Good to see more people contributing in here. I was a late comer to this group a few years back, and have always enjoyed the football knowledge and particularly the passion for the Broncos in this gang. I value the opinion of everybody in here, and it helps pass the off season blahs, to postulate and speculate about what the Broncos will look like this coming season. I hope that there will be several status promotions in the coming weeks of FA and draft talk. I see most everybody is closing in on their next level. I am going to make it a goal to reach All-Pro status by the start of the season. 250 gets you to Starter, 500 gets you Veteran, and 1000 gains All-Pro. There are a few guys here working towards 2500 and MVP status. Then there is the biggy at 5000, Hall of Fame. Keep the info and opinions coming Gents, I soak it up like a sponge

[Hoppy]

Thanks for all the CONGRATS Holding those Grandchildren for the first time great feeling as I'm sure some of you know. Put everything into perspective. Well I did watch the phone for news on the Broncos while waiting but we do love our team. Who knows John Elway better then those who have worked with him. Adam Gase set out to hurt this team with his outrageous offer to CJ knowing John had to match. He would hurt The Broncos one way or the other, Match you hurt your cap don't match he get's the best RB on your team. John Fox also Knows how to get back at this team by hitting us where it hurts. We were all talking about middle linebacker for years and as soon as we get 2 playing well he grabbed the one he could. Yesterday we lost our ST captain. Burton sign for 3 million with Washington. I think Mr. Elway has made a few mistakes this off season. The biggest was the tender to CJ. The next Matching. In this game of chess Gase has John in Check. He will have to put another sorry O-Line together this season. By the way Mathis has an offer on the table from the Cardinals and Ryan Harris already found a new team. Going to be hard to get back the the Bowl this season. Money is tight

[IckyIPA]

Great feeling Hop. Holding my two grand daughters for the first time was every bit as special as holding my three kids the first time. I know we lost a lot this year, and getting to the Super Bowl (always hard, no matter how good your team is) we be a bit tougher this year indeed. But I don't think we drop off too much if at al on DL or ILB. Davis will fill in just fine in Danny's absence, he always did when Trevathon was hurt, and we have a seasoned Corey Nelson vying for that spot too. Anunike will benefit just as much as Malik did from our supporting cast. I'm sure there will be other bargains out there that will benefit as well. look what we got out of Antonio Smith and Vance Walker, for almost nothing. Burton is a tough loss, but he couldn't crack the starting line-up and we can't pay that money to a special teams and back up only player. We have a great and deep core, and I'm sure we will fill in the holes nicely in the draft and bargain signings. I believe our only need on the O-line is a couple of Guards and we will be much better at Tackle than last year. Can't wait to see what Elway does to plug the few holes

[Hoppy]

Harris signs 2 year 3.9 M deal with the Steelers Broncos set for a meeting with Russell Okung LT from Seattle could be can't come to terms with Clady.
Still don't know why you can't pay 1.95 per year to a man who started every game for you.

[Hoppy]

Great feeling Hop. Holding my two grand daughters for the first time was every bit as special as holding my three kids the first time. I know we lost a lot this year, and getting to the Super Bowl (always hard, no matter how good your team is) we be a bit tougher this year indeed. But I don't think we drop off too much if at al on DL or ILB. Davis will fill in just fine in Danny's absence, he always did when Trevathon was hurt, and we have a seasoned Corey Nelson vying for that spot too. Anunike will benefit just as much as Malik did from our supporting cast. I'm sure there will be other bargains out there that will benefit as well. look what we got out of Antonio Smith and Vance Walker, for almost nothing. Burton is a tough loss, but he couldn't crack the starting line-up and we can't pay that money to a special teams and back up only player. We have a great and deep core, and I'm sure we will fill in the holes nicely in the draft and bargain signings. I believe our only need on the O-line is a couple of Guards and we will be much better at Tackle than last year. Can't wait to see what Elway does to plug the few holes