AFC West Denver Broncos

[Hoppy]

Based on his last 15 games Manning is not going to get any better. Just finish the season Pay Brock his new contract. and hope he is the real next QB of the Broncos Just hope you guys are right I will never see THIS PEYTON MANNING leading us anywhere. Yes we may win our division because it is weak but I see us as 1 and done.

[Hoppy]

Even the NFL doesn't believe in the Manning lead Offense we are 5-0 but keep dropping in the Power Ratings Look at your offensive numbers
http://t.co/CUUgcuUgzT

[CSpringsNSD]

This defense with the offense we had 2-3 years ago could easily win the SB. But we have seen over the last few years that you can't just have it one side of the ball. We had the No.1 offense and got nothing. Now we have the No.1 defense and will get nothing unless something drastically changes with the offense. It is time for the offense to gel or make a change.

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-wh ... ml/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

[IckyIPA]

http://www.milehighreport.com/2015/10/12/9512879/benching-peyton-manning-is-a-terrible-idea

This dude is the anti-Hop....lol

Not at all the second gif helps out what I said. It was the pass I thought Good thing that safety was out of place . Sanders had to almost stop to catch the ball leaving him open for a hard hit if the safety was where he was suppose to be. Late on the pass Sanders slows to catch a underthrown pass. and the corner catches him before he can pick up his speed again. That should have been a TD. Thanks The other pass was a little behind Sanders caught it on his back shoulder more than on his numbers. But at lease it was there. 2 years ago those passes would have been on the money.

-- Here is my .4cents

1. Cents Peyton is the one that got you here, you ride the horse until he cain't be rid no mowah
2. Cents I don't know if the "brain transplant" would work Springs, Didn't someone try that already? Ryan Leaf comes to mind
3. Cents the defense is awesome !!! Dude Wade man, let the horses run free over Brady & Rogers, if we can get past those 2 we definitely have playoff implications
4. Cents None of this makes any cents I'll step off my soapbox now.

Centsational use of common cents Jarhead, and very centsable too.

[OnlyInUtah]

OZ shines in preseason games....then stinks in the regular season. OZ is nothing more than a backup....if I'm wrong I'll eat my words but I'd put money if they put him behind this awful line he'll look like Ryan Mallet on a bad day.

[CSpringsNSD]

This group is pretty kind to Manning, ranking him #4 out of the 32 starting QBs.

http://football-players.pointafter.com/ ... on-Manning

[OnlyInUtah]

I don't think I'd rank him in the top fifteen so far this year...lol.

[CSpringsNSD]

I don't think I'd rank him in the top fifteen so far this year...lol.

Yeah it was a pretty generous ranking.

[OnlyInUtah]

I don't think I'd rank him in the top fifteen so far this year...lol.

Yeah it was a pretty generous ranking.

lol

[rdrJoe]

Good afternoon Broncs.

Hope all is well with you all in here. I enjoy seeing your takes on your team. I am going to keep my 2 cents to myself. ahem lol But barging in here to talk about my own teams weakness briefly. We have young receivers that do not even bother to look for the football while running timing routes, which almost always results in disaster (only guy I saw watching the football Sunday was Crabtree and yes he did make the adjustments to actually make the catches) terrible offensive play calling by our OC (again, he changed a bit for 2 games now back to his comfort zone) and a failed guy playing RG Webb who is on his 3rd team and still a failure. Injuries galore and some continue playing. Defense ie Norton made the adjustments to utilize his talent available and it got better. Musgrave did not and still suggs. Oh then there is CWood! nothing I can say everyone doesn't already know there. But the man continues to amaze me and keeps raising the bar for all that follow. Well we could have a reliable FG kicker too.

Good win for you for sure. Terrible seeing the towels waving in SD and that heart breaking choke. Again. hahaha no it wasn't. Place was almost as full as when Da Raiders are in there. lol

Nice seeing you all still in here.
Again, all the best. Sorry to take up space with my team review. Had to stop bagging on them as I'd run short of space.

Peace !

[OnlyInUtah]

Good afternoon Broncs.

Hope all is well with you all in here. I enjoy seeing your takes on your team. I am going to keep my 2 cents to myself. ahem lol But barging in here to talk about my own teams weakness briefly. We have young receivers that do not even bother to look for the football while running timing routes, which almost always results in disaster (only guy I saw watching the football Sunday was Crabtree and yes he did make the adjustments to actually make the catches) terrible offensive play calling by our OC (again, he changed a bit for 2 games now back to his comfort zone) and a failed guy playing RG Webb who is on his 3rd team and still a failure. Injuries galore and some continue playing. Defense ie Norton made the adjustments to utilize his talent available and it got better. Musgrave did not and still suggs. Oh then there is CWood! nothing I can say everyone doesn't already know there. But the man continues to amaze me and keeps raising the bar for all that follow. Well we could have a reliable FG kicker too.

Good win for you for sure. Terrible seeing the towels waving in SD and that heart breaking choke. Again. hahaha no it wasn't. Place was almost as full as when Da Raiders are in there. lol

Nice seeing you all still in here.
Again, all the best. Sorry to take up space with my team review. Had to stop bagging on them as I'd run short of space.



Peace !

lol....brag away my friend. We've been too busy "bragging" about our teams struggles....

[Hoppy]

This group is pretty kind to Manning, ranking him #4 out of the 32 starting QBs.

http://football-players.pointafter.com/ ... on-Manning

he's selling tickets who's buying if he tells the truth?

[Hoppy]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-whats-wrong-with-the-denver-broncos-offense.html/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

The o-line get the blame? they were brought here to run the zone blocking scheme. Not pass block for a offense that could never run the ball sense the Broncos installed it. Mannings Pistol will never work without a QB who can take off with the ball. A QB that can run will keep the defense honest. The pistol is good for the passing game for Peyton also again because he can't run forward how will he run backwards. so he doesn't give the back a head start and they are usually hit in the backfield. They blamed M.Ball for getting hit behind the line now CJ is getting hit behind the line so is Hillman. Blame the line find other ways that we can blame everyone but the great Peyton Manning. One day I will stand up and give you and Big mac a Bronco salute when you come over to the light and away from the orange colored glasses.I'm a fan and I want a SB especially sense the Cubs beat my Cardinals

[OnlyInUtah]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-whats-wrong-with-the-denver-broncos-offense.html/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

The o-line get the blame? they were brought here to run the zone blocking scheme. Not pass block for a offense that could never run the ball sense the Broncos installed it. Mannings Pistol will never work without a QB who can take off with the ball. A QB that can run will keep the defense honest. The pistol is good for the passing game for Peyton also again because he can't run forward how will he run backwards. so he doesn't give the back a head start and they are usually hit in the backfield. They blamed M.Ball for getting hit behind the line now CJ is getting hit behind the line so is Hillman. Blame the line find other ways that we can blame everyone but the great Peyton Manning. One day I will stand up and give you and Big mac a Bronco salute when you come over to the light and away from the orange colored glasses.I'm a fan and I want a SB especially sense the Cubs beat my Cardinals

They couldn't zone block a gerbil. The Broncos thought they could get away with a cheesy line and tight ends that don't block and now it's a problem.

[OnlyInUtah]

And blame Manning all you want. You put OZ in now and it will be Kyle Orton all over again.

[OnlyInUtah]

And blame Manning all you want. You put OZ in now and it will be Kyle Orton all over again.

And if I remember right the only thing that saved us then (kinda) was Tebow and our defense.

[CSpringsNSD]

And blame Manning all you want. You put OZ in now and it will be Kyle Orton all over again.

And if I remember right the only thing that saved us then (kinda) was Tebow and our defense.

Lol, BRING BACK TEBOW!!

[Hoppy]

And blame Manning all you want. You put OZ in now and it will be Kyle Orton all over again.

And if I remember right the only thing that saved us then (kinda) was Tebow and our defense.

Lol, BRING BACK TEBOW!!

Right now he could at least run. Peyton can't run can't pass. and Springs you are correct but that defense wasn't as good as this one if it were we would have won game by running the ball and killing the clock and the other team wouldn't score because No INT's giving up points. No I'm not a Tebow fan

[Hoppy]

And blame Manning all you want. You put OZ in now and it will be Kyle Orton all over again.

And if I remember right the only thing that saved us then (kinda) was Tebow and our defense.

Funny I though they just took some tape and put a 1 on Orton. He did throw some good passes then an INT at the end of games and those plays would kill the team. 8 TD's and 12 INT's last 9 games That's like Kyle isn't it

[Hoppy]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-whats-wrong-with-the-denver-broncos-offense.html/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

The o-line get the blame? they were brought here to run the zone blocking scheme. Not pass block for a offense that could never run the ball sense the Broncos installed it. Mannings Pistol will never work without a QB who can take off with the ball. A QB that can run will keep the defense honest. The pistol is good for the passing game for Peyton also again because he can't run forward how will he run backwards. so he doesn't give the back a head start and they are usually hit in the backfield. They blamed M.Ball for getting hit behind the line now CJ is getting hit behind the line so is Hillman. Blame the line find other ways that we can blame everyone but the great Peyton Manning. One day I will stand up and give you and Big mac a Bronco salute when you come over to the light and away from the orange colored glasses.I'm a fan and I want a SB especially sense the Cubs beat my Cardinals

They couldn't zone block a gerbil. The Broncos thought they could get away with a cheesy line and tight ends that don't block and now it's a problem.

Peyton can't run the zone he can't play under center. They have to play the pistol only game in town Peyton can play. put the blame on the line keep the late great Manning free of blame

[StandardIssueDenver]

Sorry for the delay, I’ve been trapped in an odd alternate universe.
Below are my non-standard notes on our 36-30 win over the LA Raiders.
Great TD passes from Brock to Hillman & DT. Hit them right in the hands!
I didn’t think Oakland’s screen pass on 4th & 19 was smart but it worked.
Standard Heroes: Clady, Heuerman, Latimer, & all of our roll out blockers.
Good thing Hillman’s mouthpiece isn’t pink. It’d look like gums.
McMisses should take lessons from the sure footed Jankowski.
It was nice of Vonathan Miller to not rub in the ego strip of Carr*
*In case you’re wondering, Carr still sucks in all planes of reality.
Wolf looked small out there. Perhaps he should try juicing a little.
The whole fullback thing is starting to click. Bring on the snow! Go Boulder Broncos!
Good thing we won by 6 (via offense) or our fan base would be worried.

[IckyIPA]

Sorry for the delay, I’ve been trapped in an odd alternate universe.
Below are my non-standard notes on our 36-30 win over the LA Raiders.
Great TD passes from Brock to Hillman & DT. Hit them right in the hands!
I didn’t think Oakland’s screen pass on 4th & 19 was smart but it worked.
Standard Heroes: Clady, Heuerman, Latimer, & all of our roll out blockers.
Good thing Hillman’s mouthpiece isn’t pink. It’d look like gums.
McMisses should take lessons from the sure footed Jankowski.
It was nice of Vonathan Miller to not rub in the ego strip of Carr*
*In case you’re wondering, Carr still sucks in all planes of reality.
Wolf looked small out there. Perhaps he should try juicing a little.
The whole fullback thing is starting to click. Bring on the snow! Go Boulder Broncos!
Good thing we won by 6 (via offense) or our fan base would be worried.

Bizzarro World is where I hang my hat most days

[OnlyInUtah]

Sorry for the delay, I’ve been trapped in an odd alternate universe.
Below are my non-standard notes on our 36-30 win over the LA Raiders.
Great TD passes from Brock to Hillman & DT. Hit them right in the hands!
I didn’t think Oakland’s screen pass on 4th & 19 was smart but it worked.
Standard Heroes: Clady, Heuerman, Latimer, & all of our roll out blockers.
Good thing Hillman’s mouthpiece isn’t pink. It’d look like gums.
McMisses should take lessons from the sure footed Jankowski.
It was nice of Vonathan Miller to not rub in the ego strip of Carr*
*In case you’re wondering, Carr still sucks in all planes of reality.
Wolf looked small out there. Perhaps he should try juicing a little.
The whole fullback thing is starting to click. Bring on the snow! Go Boulder Broncos!
Good thing we won by 6 (via offense) or our fan base would be worried.

lol

[Bigmac1979]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-whats-wrong-with-the-denver-broncos-offense.html/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

The o-line get the blame? they were brought here to run the zone blocking scheme. Not pass block for a offense that could never run the ball sense the Broncos installed it. Mannings Pistol will never work without a QB who can take off with the ball. A QB that can run will keep the defense honest. The pistol is good for the passing game for Peyton also again because he can't run forward how will he run backwards. so he doesn't give the back a head start and they are usually hit in the backfield. They blamed M.Ball for getting hit behind the line now CJ is getting hit behind the line so is Hillman. Blame the line find other ways that we can blame everyone but the great Peyton Manning. One day I will stand up and give you and Big mac a Bronco salute when you come over to the light and away from the orange colored glasses.I'm a fan and I want a SB especially sense the Cubs beat my Cardinals

They couldn't zone block a gerbil. The Broncos thought they could get away with a cheesy line and tight ends that don't block and now it's a problem.

Peyton can't run the zone he can't play under center. They have to play the pistol only game in town Peyton can play. put the blame on the line keep the late great Manning free of blame

They are still calling plenty of zone runs out of pistol, and it's most often the play-side defenders who are crashing through the line to make stops for little or no gain...even Russ Wilson's bootlegging ability isn't going to freeze play-side DEs/DTs/OLBs...If you can point to specific plays where weakside DEs and LBs are consistently making the stops, I would put more stock into your "it's not the line's fault" argument.
Furthermore, a successful run/boot game isn't going to make a difference on pass-blocking in 3rd and long situations...no one is running play-action there and no defender is biting on it regardless...so even a zone-blocking scheme requires good ol' fashioned pocket pass-blocking fairly frequently...our line is improving in this duty, but it's still a problem...Manning deserves his fair share of the blame, but there is definitely a problem with the line play.

[Bigmac1979]

http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nfl-whats-wrong-with-the-denver-broncos-offense.html/?ref=YF

You're beating that dead horse to smithereens Hop.

The o-line get the blame? they were brought here to run the zone blocking scheme. Not pass block for a offense that could never run the ball sense the Broncos installed it. Mannings Pistol will never work without a QB who can take off with the ball. A QB that can run will keep the defense honest. The pistol is good for the passing game for Peyton also again because he can't run forward how will he run backwards. so he doesn't give the back a head start and they are usually hit in the backfield. They blamed M.Ball for getting hit behind the line now CJ is getting hit behind the line so is Hillman. Blame the line find other ways that we can blame everyone but the great Peyton Manning. One day I will stand up and give you and Big mac a Bronco salute when you come over to the light and away from the orange colored glasses.I'm a fan and I want a SB especially sense the Cubs beat my Cardinals

They couldn't zone block a gerbil. The Broncos thought they could get away with a cheesy line and tight ends that don't block and now it's a problem.

Peyton can't run the zone he can't play under center. They have to play the pistol only game in town Peyton can play. put the blame on the line keep the late great Manning free of blame

They are still calling plenty of zone runs out of pistol, and it's most often the play-side defenders who are crashing through the line to make stops for little or no gain...even Russ Wilson's bootlegging ability isn't going to freeze play-side DEs/DTs/OLBs...If you can point to specific plays where weakside DEs and LBs are consistently making the stops, I would put more stock into your "it's not the line's fault" argument.
Furthermore, a successful run/boot game isn't going to make a difference on pass-blocking in 3rd and long situations...no one is running play-action there and no defender is biting on it regardless...so even a zone-blocking scheme requires good ol' fashioned pocket pass-blocking fairly frequently...our line is improving in this duty, but it's still a problem...Manning deserves his fair share of the blame, but there is definitely a problem with the line play.

Just look at 2000, where Griese and Ferotte split starts to rush for a combined 165 yards...just over 10 yards PER GAME on 3.2 attempts per game (3.25 yards per run)...Any DC who game planned to take away the bootleg ability of Griese and Ferotte, should have been fired on the spot...that's not to say they didn't use the bootleg successfully, but it's effectiveness wasn't contingent on the rushing threat posed by these stiffs. It's all about getting TE and crossing WR open because everyone is biting on the run...The running game sets up the bootleg, not the other way around!!!
YET, Mike Anderson rushed for 1487 yards at 5.0 yards per carry...are you really going to tell me that a significant difference between the rushing ineptitude now vs. the rushing success then is the lively legs of Griese and Ferotte? My money is on the line.
Mark Schlereff (one of the best zone-blockers of all time) talks about the running game woes almost every day on my commute home...he has no allegiance to Manning, yet I don't remember him once mentioning the bootleg issues as a significant cause of the running problems. He consistently points to problems with blocking, runner vision, and OL disunity.

[Hoppy]

We are trying to run out of the pistol the backs are being meet in the backfield The defense is teeing off on the runner only because he will be the only one who dare to carry the ball. I posted this earlier and it's the one article that tell the true story and not step around the eggshell Named Manning

http://t.co/EVQlsLM46V

under offense the writer gives you his and my belief of what's wrong with this offense. Yes the line has problems I have said this but the QB has to help the line I 've also said that. As I will not ever change my feelings on this and you guys will one day I'm sure I will keep rooting for him but I will be the one you hear screaming Bench the bum when the Broncos start playing good teams B/C we haven't played a good one yet.

[Hoppy]

Broncos bring in and sign another sorry TE
http://t.co/dLXNh7QgQK

[Hoppy]

Not really a big deal that Pats lost their LT for the year The beat goes on
http://t.co/DoNQQIwI1f

[StandardIssueDenver]

Broncos bring in and sign another sorry TE
http://t.co/dLXNh7QgQK

Lets just sign one O lineman a week. One of these dollar scratch tickets is going to hit. I can feel it.