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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:35 pm

Mile high report: Broncos shouldn't have haggled over pick
http://www.milehighreport.com/2015/11/4 ... omas-trade

I can't disagree more. The team wanted a third . The way John likes to talk trade it would be easier for him to move up if he trades a third. he can't expect to move back into a higher round like a second with a fifth you can with a third and a fifth or next seasons 1st and a third this season may get a first back if you go after that running back we need. Or a QB if you don't know about Brock. anyway I like Elway's decision
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:40 pm

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Bigmac1979 wrote:Wolfe named AFCW defensive Player of the Week! Against GB, he had 5 tkls for little or no gain. He had the highest PFF performance grade on the team. I'm still a little disappointed that he's never developed into a pass-rushing threat, but he has become an elite run-stuffer who sets the table for Wade to unleash the dogs on 3rd and long. It's nice to see a less heralded member of this star-studded D get some recognition!


Yeah just saw this as well. Really cool he got it. Pretty sure there is at least 1 Bronco in the running for this every week.

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I think he will get more sacks when he gets going he is only in his 2th game this is like his preseason is just ending. He had a good game each game he got better. Now teams will start planning for him and that will help others on the line. I look for Von to profit from this
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:53 pm

Hoppy wrote:
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Bigmac1979 wrote:Wolfe named AFCW defensive Player of the Week! Against GB, he had 5 tkls for little or no gain. He had the highest PFF performance grade on the team. I'm still a little disappointed that he's never developed into a pass-rushing threat, but he has become an elite run-stuffer who sets the table for Wade to unleash the dogs on 3rd and long. It's nice to see a less heralded member of this star-studded D get some recognition!


Yeah just saw this as well. Really cool he got it. Pretty sure there is at least 1 Bronco in the running for this every week.

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I think he will get more sacks when he gets going he is only in his 2th game this is like his preseason is just ending. He had a good game each game he got better. Now teams will start planning for him and that will help others on the line. I look for Von to profit from this


I think all teams can hope to do at this point is limit their own mistakes and slowly plug away. How else do you play for a defense where you have to plan for nearly every player on the field.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:42 pm

Hoppy wrote:Mile high report: Broncos shouldn't have haggled over pick
http://www.milehighreport.com/2015/11/4 ... omas-trade

I can't disagree more. The team wanted a third . The way John likes to talk trade it would be easier for him to move up if he trades a third. he can't expect to move back into a higher round like a second with a fifth you can with a third and a fifth or next seasons 1st and a third this season may get a first back if you go after that running back we need. Or a QB if you don't know about Brock. anyway I like Elway's decision



Agreed. A third is a huge pick but a 5th is usually a hit or miss (mostly miss) round. Too big a price to pay in total for a top player that might get hurt and then retire that isn't a QB. Thomas is awesome but that trade seemed like one of those deals (that always fail) by Dan Snyder of the "deadskins".
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:45 pm

With the way they've played this year, I know that this Colts team shouldn't really scare me...but they do. Sure, their three wins came against bottom-5 teams, but their last three games against two unbeatens and a feisty NO were all within 7 points at the end. Luck's thrown for 8 TDs in that span (with 5 INTs). I think Indy's best football is yet to come...hopefully AFTER their bye!
On paper, though, Denver has match-up advantages everywhere except QB...just hope Denver doesn't come in overconfident after last week.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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IckyIPA wrote:Broncos-Packers News Reel
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:14 pm

Morning all, Biggie I see this team playing well because of the pressure that they put on QB's I think Luck has some kind of injury but the team is hiding it. He just doesn't look well. Now I hope Manning stays with the script and not revert back to trying to do too much. If he does we should win the game being the better team. The team with the least Turnovers wins games that will be true to the outcome of this one. I had to say this because I have said it the last 2 games and we have won. Colts win 20- 17 if Manning throws 40 plus times. If we RUN a balanced attack and I have Caps on the important word Broncos win 31-13
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:17 pm

Hoppy wrote:Morning all, Biggie I see this team playing well because of the pressure that they put on QB's I think Luck has some kind of injury but the team is hiding it. He just doesn't look well. Now I hope Manning stays with the script and not revert back to trying to do too much. If he does we should win the game being the better team. The team with the least Turnovers wins games that will be true to the outcome of this one. I had to say this because I have said it the last 2 games and we have won. Colts win 20- 17 if Manning throws 40 plus times. If we RUN a balanced attack and I have Caps on the important word Broncos win 31-13


Our Defense is a monster and against a better offense only gave up 10 points. I could see Denver holding them to 10 or under for a second week in a row. Luck throws picks so expect Talib and Harris to be all over the ball when it gets let lose. Our pass rushers should also have an easier time against a QB who will be less mobile.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:24 pm

Just a thought for next season not saying go get him just a thought
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby NewEraBroncos » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:19 pm

Hoppy wrote:Just a thought for next season not saying go get him just a thought
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:48 pm

It took me a minute to send out congrats to Royals fans but here it is congrats on winning your first World Series They gave you the one in "85"
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 pm

CSpringsNSD wrote:
Hoppy wrote:Morning all, Biggie I see this team playing well because of the pressure that they put on QB's I think Luck has some kind of injury but the team is hiding it. He just doesn't look well. Now I hope Manning stays with the script and not revert back to trying to do too much. If he does we should win the game being the better team. The team with the least Turnovers wins games that will be true to the outcome of this one. I had to say this because I have said it the last 2 games and we have won. Colts win 20- 17 if Manning throws 40 plus times. If we RUN a balanced attack and I have Caps on the important word Broncos win 31-13


Our Defense is a monster and against a better offense only gave up 10 points. I could see Denver holding them to 10 or under for a second week in a row. Luck throws picks so expect Talib and Harris to be all over the ball when it gets let lose. Our pass rushers should also have an easier time against a QB who will be less mobile.


Luck can run the ball and has against teams all year. I just can't see anyone beating us if the offense continues to run the ball. It opens the passing game up as LB can't drop into passing lanes. They have to honor the run. Remember this the Colts are a second half team. They fired their OC this week and will be out to show the world it was his fault that the team couldn't play up to expectations. If we play our game it really won't matter
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 pm

IckyIPA wrote:Broncos-Packers News Reel
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http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia ... b3730cbce1

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:58 pm

Hillman gets second start
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:02 pm

Hoppy wrote:
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Hoppy wrote:Morning all, Biggie I see this team playing well because of the pressure that they put on QB's I think Luck has some kind of injury but the team is hiding it. He just doesn't look well. Now I hope Manning stays with the script and not revert back to trying to do too much. If he does we should win the game being the better team. The team with the least Turnovers wins games that will be true to the outcome of this one. I had to say this because I have said it the last 2 games and we have won. Colts win 20- 17 if Manning throws 40 plus times. If we RUN a balanced attack and I have Caps on the important word Broncos win 31-13


Our Defense is a monster and against a better offense only gave up 10 points. I could see Denver holding them to 10 or under for a second week in a row. Luck throws picks so expect Talib and Harris to be all over the ball when it gets let lose. Our pass rushers should also have an easier time against a QB who will be less mobile.


Luck can run the ball and has against teams all year. I just can't see anyone beating us if the offense continues to run the ball. It opens the passing game up as LB can't drop into passing lanes. They have to honor the run. Remember this the Colts are a second half team. They fired their OC this week and will be out to show the world it was his fault that the team couldn't play up to expectations. If we play our game it really won't matter


Luck is hurting and not as mobile as normal. If he's slow the defense will eat him up.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:10 pm

Hoppy wrote:Just a thought for next season not saying go get him just a thought
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The problem with Stafford is he is streaky and erratic. Not sure about taking on that guy but if it's between him or Oz I'd take Stafford I think.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:15 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:
Hoppy wrote:Just a thought for next season not saying go get him just a thought
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The problem with Stafford is he is streaky and erratic. Not sure about taking on that guy but if it's between him or Oz I'd take Stafford I think.

I'd love to see Stafford and Oz battle it out for the starting job...Stafford looks pretty shell-shocked, but he's one of those guys who's had the bad luck of playing for a tire-fire team and an unending parade of coaches. I'd like to see what he could do with Kube's QB-friendly offense and a great defense.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:37 pm

Bigmac1979 wrote:
OnlyInUtah wrote:
Hoppy wrote:Just a thought for next season not saying go get him just a thought
https://t.co/SzpqaRp6r7



The problem with Stafford is he is streaky and erratic. Not sure about taking on that guy but if it's between him or Oz I'd take Stafford I think.

I'd love to see Stafford and Oz battle it out for the starting job...Stafford looks pretty shell-shocked, but he's one of those guys who's had the bad luck of playing for a tire-fire team and an unending parade of coaches. I'd like to see what he could do with Kube's QB-friendly offense and a great defense.



My money would be on Stafford to win that battle. We first have to see if we can sign Oz next year to a team friendly contract. If Oz wants too much money and Stafford would be available at a reasonable price?....I'd go with Stafford in a minute. Oz as our QB of the future scares the hell out of me.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:14 am

two points if I may Utah we don't know if Oz can lead this team. That's why I've been promoting to let him play. We need to see if he is the man to lead the team in the future. Why wait till next season when you could spend the money on someone else if he doesn't work. if he is a bust and we wait till next season just give the Raiders the Division title.
About this game Manning needs 284 yards to become the all time leader in yards. I know that doesn't seem like a lot of passing yards. Only once this season has he dropped back to pass the ball 40 times or more and thrown for 300 + yards. He was 31-42 for 324 2TD's 1 INT QBR 83.5 against Detroit. The other 300 = game was this past Sunday he was 21-29 for 340 yds ) TD's 1 INT QBR 93.6 clearly his beast game of the season. His next best QBR would be against KC 59.4 he has not been over 50.0 in any other game this season. If we run the ball I hope he can see he has a better chance of getting the record than if he comes out throwing the ball 40 = times. Run the ball we win pass the ball Colts win.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:18 am

Hoppy wrote:two points if I may Utah we don't know if Oz can lead this team. That's why I've been promoting to let him play. We need to see if he is the man to lead the team in the future. Why wait till next season when you could spend the money on someone else if he doesn't work. if he is a bust and we wait till next season just give the Raiders the Division title.
About this game Manning needs 284 yards to become the all time leader in yards. I know that doesn't seem like a lot of passing yards. Only once this season has he dropped back to pass the ball 40 times or more and thrown for 300 + yards. He was 31-42 for 324 2TD's 1 INT QBR 83.5 against Detroit. The other 300 = game was this past Sunday he was 21-29 for 340 yds ) TD's 1 INT QBR 93.6 clearly his beast game of the season. His next best QBR would be against KC 59.4 he has not been over 50.0 in any other game this season. If we run the ball I hope he can see he has a better chance of getting the record than if he comes out throwing the ball 40 = times. Run the ball we win pass the ball Colts win.

I had shifted over to your side after that ugly Browns game, but with the running game finally working, the line playing as a unit, and Manning looking much less shaky, I would be utterly opposed to playing Oz now, unless Manning completely collapses or develops another nagging injury that requires time to heal. Denver finally looked like a bona fide Super Bowl contender on Sunday...you have to let the season play out now unless something changes drastically.
If Denver suddenly went to Oz and his inevitable first-year-starter struggles lead to a collapse, not only would you have a fan revolt, but the vets on this team would riot as well. I would expect some players to request off-season trades, and all that good will that has helped Elway to sign elite vets to cap-friendly terms would evaporate in an instant. Sticking with Manning, at least, 90% of the fans and players will understand if Elway puts all his chips in the middle and things don't work out...at least he played the odds and took a shot at glory.
Like you, I'm concerned about how Manning will play in swirling winds and snow come January or even February (hopefully), but we are past the point-of-no-return with this team...time to cross our chest and try to enjoy the ride.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:25 am

Bigmac1979 wrote:
Hoppy wrote:two points if I may Utah we don't know if Oz can lead this team. That's why I've been promoting to let him play. We need to see if he is the man to lead the team in the future. Why wait till next season when you could spend the money on someone else if he doesn't work. if he is a bust and we wait till next season just give the Raiders the Division title.
About this game Manning needs 284 yards to become the all time leader in yards. I know that doesn't seem like a lot of passing yards. Only once this season has he dropped back to pass the ball 40 times or more and thrown for 300 + yards. He was 31-42 for 324 2TD's 1 INT QBR 83.5 against Detroit. The other 300 = game was this past Sunday he was 21-29 for 340 yds ) TD's 1 INT QBR 93.6 clearly his beast game of the season. His next best QBR would be against KC 59.4 he has not been over 50.0 in any other game this season. If we run the ball I hope he can see he has a better chance of getting the record than if he comes out throwing the ball 40 = times. Run the ball we win pass the ball Colts win.

I had shifted over to your side after that ugly Browns game, but with the running game finally working, the line playing as a unit, and Manning looking much less shaky, I would be utterly opposed to playing Oz now, unless Manning completely collapses or develops another nagging injury that requires time to heal. Denver finally looked like a bona fide Super Bowl contender on Sunday...you have to let the season play out now unless something changes drastically. If Denver suddenly went to Oz and his inevitable first-year-starter struggles lead to a collapse, not only would you have a fan revolt, but the vets on this team would riot as well. I would expect some players to request off-season trades, and all that good will that has helped Elway to sign elite vets to cap-friendly terms would evaporate in an instant. Sticking with Manning, at least, 90% of the fans and players will understand if Elway puts all his chips in the middle and things don't work out...at least he played the odds and took a shot at glory.
Like you, I'm concerned about how Manning will play in swirling winds and snow come January or even February (hopefully), but we are past the point-of-no-return with this team...time to cross our chest and try to enjoy the ride.

The one caveat to that would be if Denver gets locked into a playoff seed early (such as NE runs the table and Cinci loses a few games), or if Denver can finally start building some early leads and then put Manning on a pitch-count. I also want to see what Oz can do with an open playbook, but not to the detriment of our current Super Bowl chances.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:25 am

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Hoppy wrote:two points if I may Utah we don't know if Oz can lead this team. That's why I've been promoting to let him play. We need to see if he is the man to lead the team in the future. Why wait till next season when you could spend the money on someone else if he doesn't work. if he is a bust and we wait till next season just give the Raiders the Division title.
About this game Manning needs 284 yards to become the all time leader in yards. I know that doesn't seem like a lot of passing yards. Only once this season has he dropped back to pass the ball 40 times or more and thrown for 300 + yards. He was 31-42 for 324 2TD's 1 INT QBR 83.5 against Detroit. The other 300 = game was this past Sunday he was 21-29 for 340 yds ) TD's 1 INT QBR 93.6 clearly his beast game of the season. His next best QBR would be against KC 59.4 he has not been over 50.0 in any other game this season. If we run the ball I hope he can see he has a better chance of getting the record than if he comes out throwing the ball 40 = times. Run the ball we win pass the ball Colts win.

I had shifted over to your side after that ugly Browns game, but with the running game finally working, the line playing as a unit, and Manning looking much less shaky, I would be utterly opposed to playing Oz now, unless Manning completely collapses or develops another nagging injury that requires time to heal. Denver finally looked like a bona fide Super Bowl contender on Sunday...you have to let the season play out now unless something changes drastically. If Denver suddenly went to Oz and his inevitable first-year-starter struggles lead to a collapse, not only would you have a fan revolt, but the vets on this team would riot as well. I would expect some players to request off-season trades, and all that good will that has helped Elway to sign elite vets to cap-friendly terms would evaporate in an instant. Sticking with Manning, at least, 90% of the fans and players will understand if Elway puts all his chips in the middle and things don't work out...at least he played the odds and took a shot at glory.
Like you, I'm concerned about how Manning will play in swirling winds and snow come January or even February (hopefully), but we are past the point-of-no-return with this team...time to cross our chest and try to enjoy the ride.


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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:26 am

Hoppy wrote:two points if I may Utah we don't know if Oz can lead this team. That's why I've been promoting to let him play. We need to see if he is the man to lead the team in the future. Why wait till next season when you could spend the money on someone else if he doesn't work. if he is a bust and we wait till next season just give the Raiders the Division title.
About this game Manning needs 284 yards to become the all time leader in yards. I know that doesn't seem like a lot of passing yards. Only once this season has he dropped back to pass the ball 40 times or more and thrown for 300 + yards. He was 31-42 for 324 2TD's 1 INT QBR 83.5 against Detroit. The other 300 = game was this past Sunday he was 21-29 for 340 yds ) TD's 1 INT QBR 93.6 clearly his beast game of the season. His next best QBR would be against KC 59.4 he has not been over 50.0 in any other game this season. If we run the ball I hope he can see he has a better chance of getting the record than if he comes out throwing the ball 40 = times. Run the ball we win pass the ball Colts win.



My guess is the coaches and Elway already know the answer to that. Notice there has been no attempt to resign him yet? That is telling in itself.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:27 am

Yeah.. I had Manning dangling over a cliff in my mind for a bit.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:39 pm

kicks wrote:Yeah.. I had Manning dangling over a cliff in my mind for a bit.

Yeah...I feel like I'm kinda jumping back and forth between wanting to stick with Manning and wanting to can him, but GB was a potential turning point for me...that showed me that Denver can beat anyone, even NE, so I'm all-in on Manning (until the next 3 INT game)
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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