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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:21 pm

CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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I for one wouldn't mind the signing. He has a strong arm and can run. He was the talk of the league when he took over and ran Smith out of town. The offense that they used was a bad one and the one they have now is also. With the talent we have on this team and in Kubiaks Offense I think he becomes the talk of the league and the comeback player of the year.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:52 pm

Hoppy wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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I for one wouldn't mind the signing. He has a strong arm and can run. He was the talk of the league when he took over and ran Smith out of town. The offense that they used was a bad one and the one they have now is also. With the talent we have on this team and in Kubiaks Offense I think he becomes the talk of the league and the comeback player of the year.


I don't know, I'm not so worried about his talents as I am his attitude. He still seems young and immature. We need a leader, not kid to look after. That's one thing I like about Oz, he stays out of trouble and does his job. No big fan fare.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:53 pm

CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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As a Nevada product, Icky might like that. I'm not sure of any of our potential choices that are being mentioned. Stafford, Kap, or Oz? What say the masses?
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:55 pm

Since we took Elway and Manning from the Colts, I say we just wait for Luck. They might run him out of town soon if he regresses more.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:03 pm

kicks wrote:Since we took Elway and Manning from the Colts, I say we just wait for Luck. They might run him out of town soon if he regresses more.


Lol, good plan :up: :lol:
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:43 pm

CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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He has maturity issues plus his prior success was due to Harbaugh running a modified spread with him. If he has to make multiple reads on the receivers he doesn't do well.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby IckyIPA » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:49 pm

kicks wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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As a Nevada product, Icky might like that. I'm not sure of any of our potential choices that are being mentioned. Stafford, Kap, or Oz? What say the masses?

You know it Kickster! Kaep possesses all the tools to flourish in Kubes offense. It has been plain to see that Harbaugh and Tomsula have reigned him in and taken him away from his strength as a mobile read option QB. He cannot exist in a pocket.I expect that, if, John and Gary brought him here, an offense would be developed to compliment his strengths rather than confine them. Coach him up on the quick reads and he could be as dangerous as any QB out there. I would love to see him and Green tear up the NFL the way they did together at Nevada. He is a master of the Pistol offense (played 4 years under the architect Chris Ault) and always produced league leading RBs out of it. Not to mention his career numbers running it. Take a look at his senior year stats and keep in mind these numbers had never before been reached. The number 1 RB, Vai Tua also rushed for over 1500 yards and another 19 TDs, leading little ole Nevada to a Top Ten ranking with victories over #2 Boise St. and # 12 Boston College. in the 2010 season

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2007 Nevada 11 247 133 53.8% 2,175 19 3 150.8 105 593 5.6 6
2008 Nevada 13 383 208 54.3% 2,849 22 7 132.1 161 1130 7.0 17
2009 Nevada 13 282 166 58.9% 2,052 20 6 139.1 161 1183 7.3 16
2010 Nevada 14 359 233 64.9% 3,022 21 8 150.5 173 1206 7.0 20
College Totals 1,271 740 58.2% 10,098 82 24 142.5 600 4112 6.9 59
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:15 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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He has maturity issues plus his prior success was due to Harbaugh running a modified spread with him. If he has to make multiple reads on the receivers he doesn't do well.


the maturity issues are what worry me the most. I'm confident the staff in place is capable of coaching and training him on the field.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:59 pm

CSpringsNSD wrote:
OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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He has maturity issues plus his prior success was due to Harbaugh running a modified spread with him. If he has to make multiple reads on the receivers he doesn't do well.


the maturity issues are what worry me the most. I'm confident the staff in place is capable of coaching and training him on the field.

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:02 pm

IckyIPA wrote:
kicks wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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As a Nevada product, Icky might like that. I'm not sure of any of our potential choices that are being mentioned. Stafford, Kap, or Oz? What say the masses?

You know it Kickster! Kaep possesses all the tools to flourish in Kubes offense. It has been plain to see that Harbaugh and Tomsula have reigned him in and taken him away from his strength as a mobile read option QB. He cannot exist in a pocket.I expect that, if, John and Gary brought him here, an offense would be developed to compliment his strengths rather than confine them. Coach him up on the quick reads and he could be as dangerous as any QB out there. I would love to see him and Green tear up the NFL the way they did together at Nevada. He is a master of the Pistol offense (played 4 years under the architect Chris Ault) and always produced league leading RBs out of it. Not to mention his career numbers running it. Take a look at his senior year stats and keep in mind these numbers had never before been reached. The number 1 RB, Vai Tua also rushed for over 1500 yards and another 19 TDs, leading little ole Nevada to a Top Ten ranking with victories over #2 Boise St. and # 12 Boston College. in the 2010 season

Passing Rushing
Season Team GP Att Comp Comp % Yards TD INT RAT Att Yards Avg TD
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2007 Nevada 11 247 133 53.8% 2,175 19 3 150.8 105 593 5.6 6
2008 Nevada 13 383 208 54.3% 2,849 22 7 132.1 161 1130 7.0 17
2009 Nevada 13 282 166 58.9% 2,052 20 6 139.1 161 1183 7.3 16
2010 Nevada 14 359 233 64.9% 3,022 21 8 150.5 173 1206 7.0 20
College Totals 1,271 740 58.2% 10,098 82 24 142.5 600 4112 6.9 59

I'd take Kaep easy question. Keap has a gun for an arm and could run the Kubaik offense with ease. But let's see if Brock can do the same
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:04 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:
OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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He has maturity issues plus his prior success was due to Harbaugh running a modified spread with him. If he has to make multiple reads on the receivers he doesn't do well.


the maturity issues are what worry me the most. I'm confident the staff in place is capable of coaching and training him on the field.

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what maturity issues?
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Baglady » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:20 pm

NOOOO, he may be having an awful season but Luck stays in Indy! BTW, kicks, check your Swiss pm - important (about Sun's game)....
DEN fans, trust us Colts fans have no illusion about Sun's game, Peyton will LOVE breaking records in Indy. And no TY Hilton, oye.
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kicks wrote:Since we took Elway and Manning from the Colts, I say we just wait for Luck. They might run him out of town soon if he regresses more.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby IckyIPA » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:50 pm

Hoppy wrote:
OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:
OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:Now speculation is churning about Kaepernick being a target for us this off-season. I don't think I like that.

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He has maturity issues plus his prior success was due to Harbaugh running a modified spread with him. If he has to make multiple reads on the receivers he doesn't do well.


the maturity issues are what worry me the most. I'm confident the staff in place is capable of coaching and training him on the field.

:up:


what maturity issues?

I'd like to hear those too Hop. I think he gets a bum rap. He made some bad decisions with associations a few years ago, but what suddenly rich kid hasn't in the NFL. I have personally witnessed many charitable acts and demonstrations of moral fiber by the work he has done in this community and Northern California. There will always be haters that take the word of sensationalizing media and spread the word of nay sayers. A lot of people hate him for his bicep kissing celebration. I ask those people, "how is that ant different than Sanders taking a bow or Newton's Superman shirt rip"? The kid is actually quite humble and soft spoken.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:57 pm

I'm not going to get in a pissing match about Kaepernick but he seems to come up with some questionable actions, tweets, and words every year. I don't think he's a 100 million dollar QB for sure.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:10 pm

Weird....I just got a phone call from dude who insists Eleanor Mayhew has my phone number. At first I thought he said Eleanor Rigby and I thought it was a prank call....lol. He was having a real problem that I didn't know this Eleanor. Strange people these days...lol.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:16 pm

So it looks like Stafford and Kaepernick both might be available next year. Both of them are better than the Matt Cassell's and Ryan Mallets that are usually out there. Unless Elway and Kubiak are sold on Oz we may be shopping next year and those two are better than usually what's floating out there. I doubt with our draft pick being way down there next year we'll get a top flight QB in the draft.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby IckyIPA » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:22 pm

Just to expand a bit about my experiences with Colin Kaepernick. I tailgated several times with his adoptive parents Rick and Theresa, they are very nice people and have obviously raised the kid right. I was lucky enough to meet him before and after several games. The first time Rick introduced me, Colin shook my hand and called me Sir. The next time I saw him, he called me Sir until I asked him to use my first name. He still answered my questions with, "No Sir" and " Yes Sir". The last time I saw him at a local event, we made eye contact, and he made his way over to me, and told me his parents still talk about the memories they made with me and my family while he played here. The fondest of mine being, when we all partied, and sat together at the Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco when we beat Boston College his Senior year. The point of my rambling on is, he was a fine young man then, and I'm sure he has matured further in the 5 years since.As to the arm kissing, his arm is covered in scripture tatoos and he says he is " Showing Praise to the Words when he does it" Theresa rolls her eyes a bit, and says behind her hand, " There is a little pride involved in the act too"
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:24 pm

IckyIPA wrote:Just to expand a bit about my experiences with Colin Kaepernick. I tailgated several times with his adoptive parents Rick and Theresa, they are very nice people and have obviously raised the kid right. I was lucky enough to meet him before and after several games. The first time Rick introduced me, Colin shook my hand and called me Sir. The next time I saw him, he called me Sir until I asked him to use my first name. He still answered my questions with, "No Sir" and " Yes Sir". The last time I saw him at a local event, we made eye contact, and he made his way over to me, and told me his parents still talk about the memories they made with me and my family while he played here. The fondest of mine being, when we all partied, and sat together at the Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco when we beat Boston College his Senior year. The point of my rambling on is, he was a fine young man then, and I'm sure he has matured further in the 5 years since.As to the arm kissing, his arm is covered in scripture tatoos and he says he is " Showing Praise to the Words when he does it" Theresa rolls her eyes a bit, and says behind her hand, " There is a little pride involved in the act too"



I'd take him over Oz. It's hard to tell but I'm not an Oz fan...lol.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:25 pm

Oh, on a different note. I'm a Grandpa again as of 2 days ago. That makes 5 now. :shock:
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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If you are bored this Saturday night here's a ghost adventure about Lava Hot Springs being aired. They are doing the Lava Hot Springs Inn which used to be an insane asylum many years ago. It wouldn't surprise me if that place isn't haunted. I stayed there once 15 years ago and it's a weird place alright.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby IckyIPA » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:06 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:Oh, on a different note. I'm a Grandpa again as of 2 days ago. That makes 5 now. :shock:

Congrats Ute. I have #2 coming in December and #3 coming in March. Going to be an especially Merry Christmas for us. And I will check out the Lava show. My Gandparents used to go up there quite a bit, from Ely back in the day.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Bigmac1979 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:49 pm

After this year, Kaep and/or Stafford would come on the cheap...I don't know if either are salvageable, but I think Elway and Kubes are just the type of guys that can coax untapped QB potential. With the high rate of young QBs who bust (Oz potentially), the maddening difficulty in finding good QBs after the first 3 picks in the draft, and the dearth of starting quality free agents, I'm definitely on-board with kicking the tires one either of these fellas.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:13 pm

Oz is johns man he was a 2nd rounder He will get his shot not sure but I like keep over Stafford but I'm wanting to see Oz first
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:38 pm

Baglady wrote:NOOOO, he may be having an awful season but Luck stays in Indy! BTW, kicks, check your Swiss pm - important (about Sun's game)....
DEN fans, trust us Colts fans have no illusion about Sun's game, Peyton will LOVE breaking records in Indy. And no TY Hilton, oye.
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Got your PM and responded, my friend. Thank you. Luck will rebound. Not for this game I hope... But for others.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby kicks » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:42 pm

Hoppy wrote:Oz is johns man he was a 2nd rounder He will get his shot not sure but I like keep over Stafford but I'm wanting to see Oz first



You know Hop, I forget that Elway had faith in Oz, so that has to count for something. Whatever will be, will be, they say.

If he is the man, then we will see. It will be interesting.

For now, I have to put my faith in the team as it stands. All chips to the middle of the table. Hang on for the ride.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:35 am

I guess my issue with Stafford is he throws a very high percentage of INT's to TD's. He has 144 career TD's and 96 career INT's. He also has 38 fumbles to boot. He also isn't mobile at all averaging less than a 100 yards rushing a season. Plus I think his passing numbers have been inflated by having Megatron to throw to. I think I'd take a pass on him except for a back up. Kap has a better upside in that he can scramble and plays well out of the pocket. You would have to use him in a West Coast or modified spread as he is terrible behind center in a conventional offense. I'd still take Kap over Stafford any day just for his running ability but neither one grades out well in terms of stats. Stafford looks like damaged goods to me as well.

As far as Oz I find it curious that all you hear is Elway is enamored with him yet no attempt was made and still isn't to lock him up beyond this season. I find that odd if truly they think he's the QB of the future. With so many QB needy teams out there such as Houston, the Jets, and the Bills (to just name a few) someone will throw ridiculous money his way once he becomes a free agent unless they have a top draft pick and their eye set on one of the young guns in the draft next year. Denver is saying one thing about Oz and their actions say something quite different. Elway must have something up his sleeve and is always pretty coy on his true intentions.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:57 am

OnlyInUtah wrote:I guess my issue with Stafford is he throws a very high percentage of INT's to TD's. He has 144 career TD's and 96 career INT's. He also has 38 fumbles to boot. He also isn't mobile at all averaging less than a 100 yards rushing a season. Plus I think his passing numbers have been inflated by having Megatron to throw to. I think I'd take a pass on him except for a back up. Kap has a better upside in that he can scramble and plays well out of the pocket. You would have to use him in a West Coast or modified spread as he is terrible behind center in a conventional offense. I'd still take Kap over Stafford any day just for his running ability but neither one grades out well in terms of stats. Stafford looks like damaged goods to me as well.

As far as Oz I find it curious that all you hear is Elway is enamored with him yet no attempt was made and still isn't to lock him up beyond this season. I find that odd if truly they think he's the QB of the future. With so many QB needy teams out there such as Houston, the Jets, and the Bills (to just name a few) someone will throw ridiculous money his way once he becomes a free agent unless they have a top draft pick and their eye set on one of the young guns in the draft next year. Denver is saying one thing about Oz and their actions say something quite different. Elway must have something up his sleeve and is always pretty coy on his true intentions.


The team will tender him with a first rounder coming to us if he is taken by any of the other QB needy teams. Those teams will have high choices also so it would be better for us if he is taken.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby YiRox » Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:04 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:Weird....I just got a phone call from dude who insists Eleanor Mayhew has my phone number. At first I thought he said Eleanor Rigby and I thought it was a prank call....lol. He was having a real problem that I didn't know this Eleanor. Strange people these days...lol.



Did he ask if Eleanor picked up all the rice and why she wasn't by the window?
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