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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/col ... li=BBnba9I

Tireless articles on the Kap trade scenario. Brace yourselves....it'll get worse.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Breaking news

Ha Ha last laugh goes to the champs, meanwhile, back at the ranch, (Dove Valley) #7 is plotting to take advantage of the fracas by opening a fresh can, grabbing a coke, putting his feet up on the desk, and watching video's of TD doing the mile high salute.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:48 am

I would be utterly shocked to see Denver work out a deal for Kaepernick. Even if the 49ers took on $4-5M of his 2016 salary, it was reported that he is unwilling to restructure his deal. That means Denver would be on the hook for $19M 2017-2019 and $21M in 2020. Elway won't commit to that when Kaepernick could just as easily fail as succeed at this point of his career.

Maybe something gets done, but it will be on Denver's...and more specifically Elway's...terms. No way a cluster-f'd organization or an unhappy player dictates terms to the best GM in the game today.

In truth, I'd rather see the Broncos move past the whole thing and stick with Sanchez. I've outlined why before and I know I'm in a minority, but that's just my gut.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:35 am

Jarhead93 wrote:** http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... chip-kelly

Breaking news

Ha Ha last laugh goes to the champs, meanwhile, back at the ranch, (Dove Valley) #7 is plotting to take advantage of the fracas by opening a fresh can, grabbing a coke, putting his feet up on the desk, and watching video's of TD doing the mile high salute.



Baalke is as worthless as Jed York. He has trouble getting along with any coach no matter who they are. That's the most dysfunctioal organization there is. They make Cleveland look stable.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:46 am

SouthStands wrote:I would be utterly shocked to see Denver work out a deal for Kaepernick. Even if the 49ers took on $4-5M of his 2016 salary, it was reported that he is unwilling to restructure his deal. That means Denver would be on the hook for $19M 2017-2019 and $21M in 2020. Elway won't commit to that when Kaepernick could just as easily fail as succeed at this point of his career.

Maybe something gets done, but it will be on Denver's...and more specifically Elway's...terms. No way a cluster-f'd organization or an unhappy player dictates terms to the best GM in the game today.

In truth, I'd rather see the Broncos move past the whole thing and stick with Sanchez. I've outlined why before and I know I'm in a minority, but that's just my gut.


I'm actually with you south. I think Sanchez has come in and done everything right from day 1. He is showing that he is committed and he has a team, and more specifically a defense, around him that can help shoulder the burden of winning games. We don't need him to be Manning in his prime. Yeah so he butt fumbled a few years ago, oh well. When I replayed that play I didn't see what the big deal was. If the lineman had been standing up instead of bent over engaged in a block would it have been remembered? Probably not. Elway lined up under a guard once but we all got over that. I'm sure Manning has made some bone-headed moves in the past too. heck, it took manning taking 6 weeks off for someone to pass him in interceptions this year. Sanchez will be fine and honestly I'd take his hard work over Kap and his bicep kissing any day. The more I look at Kap the more I realize how he isn't being a leader.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:51 am

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SouthStands wrote:I would be utterly shocked to see Denver work out a deal for Kaepernick. Even if the 49ers took on $4-5M of his 2016 salary, it was reported that he is unwilling to restructure his deal. That means Denver would be on the hook for $19M 2017-2019 and $21M in 2020. Elway won't commit to that when Kaepernick could just as easily fail as succeed at this point of his career.

Maybe something gets done, but it will be on Denver's...and more specifically Elway's...terms. No way a cluster-f'd organization or an unhappy player dictates terms to the best GM in the game today.

In truth, I'd rather see the Broncos move past the whole thing and stick with Sanchez. I've outlined why before and I know I'm in a minority, but that's just my gut.


I'm actually with you south. I think Sanchez has come in and done everything right from day 1. He is showing that he is committed and he has a team, and more specifically a defense, around him that can help shoulder the burden of winning games. We don't need him to be Manning in his prime. Yeah so he butt fumbled a few years ago, oh well. When I replayed that play I didn't see what the big deal was. If the lineman had been standing up instead of bent over engaged in a block would it have been remembered? Probably not. Elway lined up under a guard once but we all got over that. I'm sure Manning has made some bone-headed moves in the past too. heck, it took manning taking 6 weeks off for someone to pass him in interceptions this year. Sanchez will be fine and honestly I'd take his hard work over Kap and his bicep kissing any day. The more I look at Kap the more I realize how he isn't being a leader.



I agree. I think we can do better than Kap in the draft a lot cheaper. Plus we won't have to endure that arm kissing BS.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby YiRox » Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:56 am

Sanchez will be fine, any guy that comes into a new city and has a presser where he lets all the women know he is single and stresses that he's not married is OK in my book.

Derrick Henry fans? Dude carried/touched the ball 395 times last year. We've seen what that wear will do to a RB
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby YiRox » Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:02 am

Sanchize has actually been a better playoff QB than regular season. Jets D helped a whole bunch those two years so actually a pretty similar situation but he's added the maturity that dirtbag Pete Carroll said he needed. Hate to admit Carroll was right about anything.

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:58 am

OnlyInUtah wrote:
CSpringsNSD wrote:
SouthStands wrote:I would be utterly shocked to see Denver work out a deal for Kaepernick. Even if the 49ers took on $4-5M of his 2016 salary, it was reported that he is unwilling to restructure his deal. That means Denver would be on the hook for $19M 2017-2019 and $21M in 2020. Elway won't commit to that when Kaepernick could just as easily fail as succeed at this point of his career.

Maybe something gets done, but it will be on Denver's...and more specifically Elway's...terms. No way a cluster-f'd organization or an unhappy player dictates terms to the best GM in the game today.

In truth, I'd rather see the Broncos move past the whole thing and stick with Sanchez. I've outlined why before and I know I'm in a minority, but that's just my gut.


I'm actually with you south. I think Sanchez has come in and done everything right from day 1. He is showing that he is committed and he has a team, and more specifically a defense, around him that can help shoulder the burden of winning games. We don't need him to be Manning in his prime. Yeah so he butt fumbled a few years ago, oh well. When I replayed that play I didn't see what the big deal was. If the lineman had been standing up instead of bent over engaged in a block would it have been remembered? Probably not. Elway lined up under a guard once but we all got over that. I'm sure Manning has made some bone-headed moves in the past too. heck, it took manning taking 6 weeks off for someone to pass him in interceptions this year. Sanchez will be fine and honestly I'd take his hard work over Kap and his bicep kissing any day. The more I look at Kap the more I realize how he isn't being a leader.



I agree. I think we can do better than Kap in the draft a lot cheaper. Plus we won't have to endure that arm kissing BS.


I somewhat agree Kaps' contract is really in the last big year of dead money. That's what I see anyways. next season I think the way it works is the Broncos cut him before 4/1 he only cost us 4.9 million of dead money the following year he will cost us 2.5 in dead money. So being this is his last season to get the big money guarantee he doesn't want to give it up. He will be a free agent next season if he stays with the 9'ers. He could restructure his deal with us and be employed for the next 3 seasons at a good price for both the team and him. I think he comes to Denver around the draft if the 9'ers get a QB 1st round. It depends on what the 9'ers do on the 28th
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:24 pm

YiRox wrote:Sanchize has actually been a better playoff QB than regular season. Jets D helped a whole bunch those two years so actually a pretty similar situation but he's added the maturity that dirtbag Pete Carroll said he needed. Hate to admit Carroll was right about anything.

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I agree I still think Kap comes to the Broncos but Get this Mark Sanchez beats him out and leads the Broncos to the playoffs. Now I know you took a shot at Ball with the amount of attempts Henry had but It wasn't the running attempts that did Ball in it was his heart. I think he ran scared after he was injured. He didn't run hard he just tip toed to the hole so ball was a bust but for what reason we can't say
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:45 pm

What does everyone think about Nkemdiche?

Am I the only one that sees this guy as an absolute stud in Phillips' defense? The fact that this kid could actually be available at #31 is insanity to me. He has all the tools to be an absolutely dominant defensive lineman at the next level. I get that he's a bit goofy and there are some red flags that need to be checked out, but his football talent is undeniable. On a team with the leadership Denver has, especially on defense, I don't think there is any reason he wouldn't thrive.

From what I can tell, he got drunk and fell out a window. The pot charge was because it was in his room, but even the police officer believed he hadn't been smoking it. He declined to run the shuttle drills for some scouts, but displayed well above average football IQ when whiteboarding with defensive coaches. His brother is reportedly a negative influence, but there's a lot of holes in those stories too. Everything that is 'negative' about him appears to be circumstantial.

Bottom line for me, this guy is easily a top 10 talent and fills a need for Denver with the departure of Jackson. Can somebody please tell me why Denver shouldn't draft this kid if he's there at #31?
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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SouthStands wrote:What does everyone think about Nkemdiche?

Am I the only one that sees this guy as an absolute stud in Phillips' defense? The fact that this kid could actually be available at #31 is insanity to me. He has all the tools to be an absolutely dominant defensive lineman at the next level. I get that he's a bit goofy and there are some red flags that need to be checked out, but his football talent is undeniable. On a team with the leadership Denver has, especially on defense, I don't think there is any reason he wouldn't thrive.

From what I can tell, he got drunk and fell out a window. The pot charge was because it was in his room, but even the police officer believed he hadn't been smoking it. He declined to run the shuttle drills for some scouts, but displayed well above average football IQ when whiteboarding with defensive coaches. His brother is reportedly a negative influence, but there's a lot of holes in those stories too. Everything that is 'negative' about him appears to be circumstantial.

Bottom line for me, this guy is easily a top 10 talent and fills a need for Denver with the departure of Jackson. Can somebody please tell me why Denver shouldn't draft this kid if he's there at #31?


All the reasons you listed where there's smoke there's fire Too many red flags and yes will he stop running with his brother? Too many times we hear of a player being out with a relative and being shot being in the wrong place. Great talent bigger risk
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:02 pm

I hear you hop, but at #31? Isn't the risk worth it at that point?

...and now the Eagles have the #2 overall pick. That means the 49ers don't get Goff or Wentz and so, hopefully, the Kaepernick chatter can come to an end.

On another note, Hoyer is in town tomorrow. We'll see where that leads, though I like the idea of two capable veteran QBs battling it out for the starting gig in Denver. Move the other to the backup role and still draft a young kid to develop.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:03 pm

Eagles trade with Browns I think they pick Elliott with it not a QB.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:06 pm

Hoppy wrote:Eagles trade with Browns I think they pick Elliott with it not a QB.
https://t.co/mDvARytRwS


...maybe, but Schefter is reporting it's Goff-Wentz or Wentz-Goff. Elliot would be intriguing, but I don't think you give up what Philly did to get a RB, even one as good as Elliot might be.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Hoppy wrote:Eagles trade with Browns I think they pick Elliott with it not a QB.
https://t.co/mDvARytRwS


...maybe, but Schefter is reporting it's Goff-Wentz or Wentz-Goff. Elliot would be intriguing, but I don't think you give up what Philly did to get a RB, even one as good as Elliot might be.


Could be right but they jumped in front of Dallas who would have taken Elliott. I just can't see giving up that much for a QB that no one knew about 3 months ago. There is no Elite QB in this draft unless there is a Tom Brady in the group. Tell me did you know of Wentz or Goff before the combine truthfully? I looked at type of them way back in Dec. to see how they would play because of CBS draft wrote they were coming out and where they may be drafted. Most had all QB's in this draft being drafted late first or second round The Eagles just gave Bradford a new contract. How will you trade that contract. no they go get Elliott. This will hurt the Cowboys who have been bringing in QB's but their game is running the ball to keep Romo healthy. this is just My opinion There hasn't been a RB like Elliott in a long time he makes your team better right away. What QB can you say that about in this draft That being said this says you are right and I am wrong https://t.co/HwGlrXyo8q
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:49 pm

I wanted to trade DT for that pick remember and The chance to draft Elliott.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:03 pm

Hoppy wrote:
SouthStands wrote:
Hoppy wrote:Eagles trade with Browns I think they pick Elliott with it not a QB.
https://t.co/mDvARytRwS


...maybe, but Schefter is reporting it's Goff-Wentz or Wentz-Goff. Elliot would be intriguing, but I don't think you give up what Philly did to get a RB, even one as good as Elliot might be.


Could be right but they jumped in front of Dallas who would have taken Elliott. I just can't see giving up that much for a QB that no one knew about 3 months ago. There is no Elite QB in this draft unless there is a Tom Brady in the group. Tell me did you know of Wentz or Goff before the combine truthfully? I looked at type of them way back in Dec. to see how they would play because of CBS draft wrote they were coming out and where they may be drafted. Most had all QB's in this draft being drafted late first or second round The Eagles just gave Bradford a new contract. How will you trade that contract. no they go get Elliott. This will hurt the Cowboys who have been bringing in QB's but their game is running the ball to keep Romo healthy. this is just My opinion There hasn't been a RB like Elliott in a long time he makes your team better right away. What QB can you say that about in this draft That being said this says you are right and I am wrong https://t.co/HwGlrXyo8q



We (Utah) played Goff in the PAC 12 so I've heard about him plenty.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:33 pm

Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby CSpringsNSD » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:38 pm

SouthStands wrote:Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.


I think some of the drops had to do with the QB situation changing back and forth during the season. WRs get used to the ball being thrown a certain way. Then somebody gets back there that can actually put a zip on it again and the WR has to adjust. I think the drops were a combination of less practice at the beginning of the year and QB flux. That is one reason why I would just like to move on with Sanchez now. He has put in the time acclimating the WRs to him and vise versa. Once the season starts he will have the best chemistry with them and therefore probably the most success.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:45 pm

SouthStands wrote:Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.


Goff is a good QB. Utah was able to contain him in the game I watched here but I think he'll be better than most in the NFL. More of a pocket passer. He isn't a big run threat and he needs to put on some more muscle.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby Hoppy » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:15 pm

OnlyInUtah wrote:
SouthStands wrote:Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.


Goff is a good QB. Utah was able to contain him in the game I watched here but I think he'll be better than most in the NFL. More of a pocket passer. He isn't a big run threat and he needs to put on some more muscle.


Goff is the first player off my board because of the California ties, Makes since for the LA Rams he has a small fan base already. You guys make all the since in the world about a QB going second I just have a gut feeling about it. All the QB's in this draft are just about the same that's why Cleveland traded down and will still draft a QB. they just picked up more picks with the trade. I didn't think DT was going anywhere I just would trade him for a great chance to have a running game. He dropped balls before manning was replaced. I think he dropped more with Peyton than Brock. But he dropped a lot of passes the year before too that's my problem. He has always dropped passes. The last great game he had for us was SB 48
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby SouthStands » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:31 pm

The Panthers rescinded the franchise tag on Josh Norman??? He's a free agent??

WOW!

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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

Postby OnlyInUtah » Wed Apr 20, 2016 4:40 pm

SouthStands wrote:The Panthers rescinded the franchise tag on Josh Norman??? He's a free agent??

WOW!

Holy crap this is an active football day, huh?



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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Hoppy wrote:
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SouthStands wrote:Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.


Goff is a good QB. Utah was able to contain him in the game I watched here but I think he'll be better than most in the NFL. More of a pocket passer. He isn't a big run threat and he needs to put on some more muscle.


Goff is the first player off my board because of the California ties, Makes since for the LA Rams he has a small fan base already. You guys make all the since in the world about a QB going second I just have a gut feeling about it. All the QB's in this draft are just about the same that's why Cleveland traded down and will still draft a QB. they just picked up more picks with the trade. I didn't think DT was going anywhere I just would trade him for a great chance to have a running game. He dropped balls before manning was replaced. I think he dropped more with Peyton than Brock. But he dropped a lot of passes the year before too that's my problem. He has always dropped passes. The last great game he had for us was SB 48



Neither QB is worth what the Rams and Eagles gave up for them. I know Goff isn't the second coming of Andrew Luck and even though I don't know about Wendtz he's iffy as well.
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Re: AFC West Denver Broncos

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Hoppy wrote:
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SouthStands wrote:Hop...I don't see DT going anywhere. I think he'll be fine too. He's a good blocker and a very talented receiver too. I know his drops come at inopportune times, but I think he'll be fine. Still generating a ton of offense and will be a solid target for whoever is at QB. He also helps Sanders out quite a bit with the safety having to cheat DT's way. That said, I didn't like the deal when Denver made it and I don't like it today. No skill player should get that much money. Everyone is replaceable...WRs and RBs are a dime a dozen. If it were me, I'd spend money on the OL and on defense.

Utah...what were your impressions of Goff?

The winner in these trades will be the Chargers. Their phone is likely ringing off the hook right now. I think they can finally get a legit LT to protect Rivers in Tunsil or they can get Weddle's replacement in Ramsey. I'm hoping they go with Tunsil as I think Ramsey is a play maker that can give Denver trouble twice a year.


Goff is a good QB. Utah was able to contain him in the game I watched here but I think he'll be better than most in the NFL. More of a pocket passer. He isn't a big run threat and he needs to put on some more muscle.


Goff is the first player off my board because of the California ties, Makes since for the LA Rams he has a small fan base already. You guys make all the since in the world about a QB going second I just have a gut feeling about it. All the QB's in this draft are just about the same that's why Cleveland traded down and will still draft a QB. they just picked up more picks with the trade. I didn't think DT was going anywhere I just would trade him for a great chance to have a running game. He dropped balls before manning was replaced. I think he dropped more with Peyton than Brock. But he dropped a lot of passes the year before too that's my problem. He has always dropped passes. The last great game he had for us was SB 48



Neither QB is worth what the Rams and Eagles gave up for them. I know Goff isn't the second coming of Andrew Luck and even though I don't know about Wendtz he's iffy as well.

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